My 2nd great aunt Amy

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My 2nd great aunt Amy
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I'm sorry if this offends folks but I'm as done as Jim is.

My current favorite blogger/writer Jim Wright gets real about 9-11 - not the popular opinion but I'm glad he posted this.

I'm bone tired of feeling guilty for avoiding the memorials and the observances and the pressure to continue to wallow - especially after the 10th anniversary passed. No one is going to ultimately forget, really, they're not. Is there really anything wrong with not wanting to be a part of forcibly pulling bad memories back to the forefront?

I'm going to do something positive or relaxing or meaningful today and not feel guity and will make a point to do that each year the observance comes around.

EDIT: Damn. FB took the post down and there wasn't anything evil or inflammatory. FB sucks

EDITY EDIT: Someone screenshotted it - I'll tuck it behind a cut here

One more edit for good measure and for better reading - Jim updated his blog and copied the post into it where FB can SUCK IT.

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I agree. It's pretty miserable seeing post after post about something so sad.

We're not going to forget, and we don't need to see it at ever turn.

9/11 is hard for me in addition because of the memorial, but it was also the day my mom was diagnosed with breast cancer. It was another five years of struggle before she passed away.

I'm so sorry for your Mom. That's rough. Maybe turn 9-11 into a day celebrating your Mom? Remembering silly thinks she said or did. Eating her favorite foods or doing something she would've liked doing.

There's enough crappy stuff happening in the world already that I know if it were me that died, I wouldn't want people crying every year, I'd want them trying to find something to be happy about.

Well, if I was speaking for "collective Britain psyche" as a friend of "collective America psyche" I'd probably suggest that talking about it is a good idea. Not wallowing in it, but talking about it and actual feelings and reactions. It's okay not to be okay about it, and there's a lot to come to terms with. It's undoubtedly the biggest cultural trauma to happen to the country in half a century and that will need to be collectively processed.

Our local community is doing a "day of discussion" which I'll admit is a lot more useful than having to scroll through the umpteenth image of the twin towers with all caps "NEVER FORGET!!!" all over them. The first can be productive, the second seems like wallowing - or for some of them, false patriotism.

It's been 15 years, people can start to process it on their own now. There are hours long shows on the nationwide networks reading all the names and having speeches at "ground zero" and such going on. It's just...enough...for me at least.

Aaaand just after I typed that, I unfollowed a Trump-spewing friend on FB who also decided to post So I wonder if there's going to be an a'hole that wants to sit during the National Anthem on 9/11. Doesn't matter if that's their right that's just being a really deep scumbag.

Ya know what's also being a scumbag? Obsessing about who stands for the stupid anthem.

Bless, honey...you do what you need to. Some of us will do a simple post (as I did), some will do discussions and those who don't wish to dwell on the day (and what it meant 15 years ago) shouldn't have to. I know how uncomfortable it can feel when everyone else is observing something and you aren't (for any reason under the sun). Tis all good by me and I try to not hold other people to some imaginary standard invisibly set by the internet version of the Joneses.

*HUGS*

*hughug*

Sadly, it's getting easier to tell who is posting because it means something personal to them (like you and some others here on LJ and FB) and others that are posting because of that same friend mentioned about standing for the anthem.

For those folks it's all about false patriotism and DO AS I SAY OR YOU'RE A SHITTY MURICAN AND HATE THE TROOPS! Pretty much what Jim was talking about in his post.

I think it's important that we acknowledge the day, just as I have always marked Pearl Harbor., but Pearl didn't keep me from adopting our Japanese son. What happened to the people was a tragedy, but it's more important that we take those lessons and move forward. *hugs*

Acknowledgement is a-ok with me. However some folks are going wayyyy too far with reposting the videos and disturbing pictures to force you to relive all the upset.

Yep, moving forward, definitely important. Agree 100% *hugs*

It was a game changing day that is for sure - and yet still so sad.

It is, but I wish we could honor the day without trying to relive and wallow in the day.

You can do whatever you want to do on this day. I have no problem with it. I think your blog poster Jim took it a bit over the top but if he feels that strongly, so be it. If you feel that strongly, so be it.

I did not post anything about 9/11 on FB. I'm not sure if I ever have. Just like I don't normally post on FB other days that I may be remembering something painful. It's just not who I am. On the other hand, I don't take issue with people who choose to use FB to post remembrances of 9/11 or any other anniversary of death or significant event.

Everyone grieves and reflects differently. I don't really think any of the people posting today want to relive that day. I doubt anyone who was there that day or watched tv coverage of that day will ever forget it. I'm sure some people do get overwhelmed at remembering it and end up wallowing in sadness but that is their right to do. I think for most people it is a day to reflect and remember the lives of all those who died. If it bothers you to see all the posts, just stay off of FB on days like this. You won't be affected by how others are spending the day and you can do whatever things you want to do on this day other than see 9/11 tributes and remembrances. There is no reason to feel guilty about your feelings.

I have plans to designate 9-11 from now on as "Unplug Day" since I know that there'll still be those people that will insist on showing burning towers with falling people. I can't stomach watching it anymore and it's too difficult to have to wade through the bloody posts to find those who are communicating other things.

To take an excerpt from your favorite blogger...

"Frankly, I have had enough of 9-11. Fuck 9-11. I'm not going to watch the shows. I'm not going to any of the memorials. I'm not going to the 9-11 sales at Wal-Mart. I don't want to hear about 9-11. I for damned sure am not interested in watching politicians of either party try to out 9-11 each other. I'm tired of this national 9-11 PTSD. I did my bit for revenge, I went to war, I'll remember the dead in my own time in my own way."

Maybe he should have the balls to go say those words right to the faces of the people whose husbands, wives,children, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles and cousins died that day. They don't 'Celebrate' 9/11, they honor it and the innocent people who lost their lives.

If he doesn't want to remember, or be involved with the observances of 9/11, fine. That's his decision and that's his right. He could have at least posted something that was less hateful and venom-filled than that. He's entitled to his opinion and has his rights just like everyone else in this country.

But his words are deliberately hurtful to people like me who nearly lost family, who lost friends on that day.
How callous and thoughtless he was in venting his own selfish opinion, how disrespectful to the sufferings of others!

He could have said the same thing in a less mean spirited and hurtful way. Hey if he doesn't like something, or wants nothing to do with something. Fine! Just don't be involved. Go picnic, go do whatever he wants, but don't hurt the people who are still suffering from what happened on that day. It's a grief that so many have a right to, and to trample on that grieving process the way he did was Unconscionable.

If a person wants to avoid the memorials for that day, simply turn off the television or switch to another station, but don't stick a hot poker in the eyes of those who choose to honor 3000 people...not just Americans who died on a beautiful crisp clear September day, through no fault of their own.

Yeah, so he believes we got our revenge and should be done with it. He has every right to believe that. Just show some respect for those who are not in the same place he is emotionally and mentally.

Your blogger in my opinion is a whiney, self-centered asshole, who doesn't know the meaning of compassion. To deliberately insult those who are suffering a terrible loss, and will suffer the rest of their lives, tells me he's one bitter person.

Though I dislike that FB is removing posts, this one really deserved to be taken down. It was so hurtful to those of us with direct connections to the World Trade Center tragedy. It was just completely inappropriate and uncalled for, for him to lash out at the suffering of others.

He'll get his wish someday, as memories of that terrible day will fade and it will be relegated to the history books like December 7th, and even the bombings in Oaklahoma have. In the mean time, just leave it be and go on about his own business.

Edited at 2016-09-12 02:57 pm (UTC)

He's not necessarily talking about the people that are in mourning. But to bombard FB with images of the towers burning and video and people falling - how can that not cause further PTSD to the people - like Jim, who fought in the war or people that were there and barely escaped? It's got to be horribly difficult for them to have the scab picked off every year and be told that maybe they need to go offline for that day because people feel a need to post the carnage. Not the simple memorials, but the ones that go over the top.

Memorializing is not the same as obsessing and some folks don't know the difference.

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